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The following is a list of other Christian music groups that the crossBeaTs came up against in the 60s and 70s, either through seeing their names on posters or playing at the same church, club, coffee bar or college etc.  I have also included groups that I have heard about since (from folk who have contacted me).  Clearly, there were many other Christian groups up and down the country with whom we have had no contact, and so who aren't mentioned here.

Solo singers and folk duos have not been included in this list. For those connections made through publicity, the month and year has been given - along with the source of publicity.  Where there was a connection through playing with the crossBeaTs on the same occasion, the specific date, month and year has been given (from the booking list).  Where extra information is available (a link in the booking list), a link has been added here around the date, month and year to those details.  The earliest contact we had (and maybe later ones) has been included.

The ordering of the list is, as far as possible, chronological in the way that the crossBeaTs came into contact with the groups (or relevant dates given to me) - and may not reflect the length of time a particular group had been playing together.

Group/Band Home Town Date of contact with the crossBeaTs
The Concords (from Liverpool) - or were they called the Raiders? Liverpool 24 Feb 64
The Vigils
(later called) Time and Space
Cheadle Started some time after February 1964. See e-mail from Paul De Barr on Cheadle Parish Church link
The Heralds Liverpool 3 Aug 64, 17 Oct 64 , 20 Feb 65, 30 Aug 65, 29 Aug 66. Gordon Lorenz, lead singer of the Heralds (see photo on the 30 Aug 65 link), is currently a songwriter/producer (see BBC article of Queen's Jubilee 2002)
The Warriors   July 64 (we went to see them at Youth For Christ in Liverpool)
Victory Side Quartet
(later called) The Cobblers
Preston 12 Sep 64, 17 Oct 64, 20 Feb 65, 28 May 66, 4 May 68.  From Carey Baptist Church Preston (William Carey - cobbler/missionary)
The Gospel 4 Stockport 17 Oct 64 , 30 Aug 65, 28 May 66
The Gospel Folk Four
(also known as The Folk Four) - later called The Glorylanders
Oldham 17 Oct 64 , 20 Feb 65, 19 Sep 65, 12 Oct 65, 5 Feb 66, 4 May 68, 29 Nov 69
Te Deum 5 Rock Ferry 20 Feb 65, Newspaper cutting around Feb 66
The Witnesses Liverpool 20 Feb 65, 6 July 65, 30 Aug 65, 30 Apr 66, 28 May 66, 23 Sep 66, 17 Dec 66
The Travellers Liverpool 20 Feb 65
The Envoys London Sep 65.  See on the page of a write-up of our first single.
Gospel Messengers Liverpool Newspaper cutting around Feb 66
The Beacons Liverpool Newspaper cuttings around Feb 66 and Dec 68
The Calvary Links Manchester Newspaper cutting around Feb 66, 4 May 68, 29 Mar 69
The Folktellers Oldham 28 May 66
The Persuaders Stockport 28 May 66
The Informers (Sound Advice) Liverpool 23 Sep 66, 17 Jan 70, 14 April 72
The Ambassadors Liverpool 23 Sep 66  See some details of the group (and their bookings) from the link around the name.
The Joystrings   17 Dec 66
The Sowers Chester (1966-7?) No paperwork on this group but see link around the name.  It has information on the "Session" coffee bar in Chester (1966), and also a link to The Sowers website
The Gospelaires   6 May 67
The Crofters Liverpool 24 Jun 67, 22 Dec 68
His Servants
(later called) Time Ltd
Liverpool 4 May 68 as His Servants
Jun 69 (Catacombs prayer letter), 17 Jan 70 as Time Ltd
The Navigators Rochdale 4 May 68, 26 Oct 68, 29 Mar 69, 4 Oct 69 and some Oct 69 publicity for the Fish Coffee bar, Milnrow
The Pilgrims
(later called) Out of Darkness
London 4 May 68, 23 May 70, Oct 70 (publicity)
The Messengers (from Ashton) Ashton-u-Lyne 26 Oct 68, 29 Mar 69, Jun 69 (Catacombs prayer letter), and on some Oct 69 publicity for the Fish Coffee bar, Milnrow
OHMS   26 Oct 68
Peculiar People   17 May 69
The Gospel Rhythms Liverpool No paperwork on this group but see link.
The Revelation Marple Dec 68 (Catacombs newsletter), Jun 69 (Catacombs prayer letter)
Proclaimers   Dec 68 (Catacombs newsletter), Jun 69 (Catacombs prayer letter)
(The) Movement (Banned) Heywood 29 Mar 69, Sep 70 (publicity), 19 Nov 71
The Messengers (from Bacup) Bacup Jun 69 (Catacombs prayer letter)
The Newscasters Bury Jun 69 (Catacombs prayer letter) and on some Oct 69 publicity for the Fish Coffee bar, Milnrow
The Outreach Poole, Dorset No paperwork on this group, but I think it was different to The Outreachers (below), See link around the name.
The Concords (from Scotland) Scotland 4 Oct 69
The Corner Stones Milnrow Oct 69 - on some publicity for the Fish Coffee bar, Milnrow
The Way Sale, Manchester Oct 69 - on some publicity for the Fish Coffee bar, Milnrow and 3 April 71
Trinity Folk Liverpool 17 Jan 70, 20 Nov 70, 19 Nov 71
Quest   31 Oct 70
The Outreachers   31 Oct 70
The Crusaders   31 Oct 70
The Samaritans Rossendale Oct 70 - on some publicity for Ralph Chambers and his Number One Disco
God's People   20 Nov 70
Ninth Hour Boreham Wood 3 April 71
Messengers of the Cross   9 Oct 71
Bent Marrow Light Patch Show   9 Oct 71
Peter Bye Trio Scotland 18 Nov 72
The Believers Liverpool 16 Mar 74
The Sons of Jubal Hull On a harvest thanksgiving ticket which we can't put a date/place to
Mixed Media   On a concert programme called "Living Sound" which we can't put a date/place to - speaker: Derek Stringer
Carol, John and Aubry (and one) Romford On a concert programme called "Living Sound" which we can't put a date/place to - speaker: Derek Stringer
Soul Aim   Replaced by Carol, John and Aubrey (and one) at "Living Sound" (above) - mentioned in the programme.
Millstone (Grit?) Liverpool On a flyer suggesting they were available for bookings from 1977.  Apparently, they played at Greenbelt in 1974.


For those interested in the early history of the UK Christian music scene (c 1960s), a good resource has got to be past copies of the old Buzz Magazine.  The problem might be that the 'old' Buzz Magazine amalgamated with other Christian magazines (from 1987), and its place was eventually taken by "Cross Rhythms".  Those people looking for a magazine called "Buzz" on the internet will realise that many other magazines with that title have since sprung up.  Some examples of parts of old Buzz pages can be seen on this site.

:Finally, some pre-60s, "pre- beat" Christian groups can be found and heard by clicking on the link.

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